I’m a joiner and I am 1 of those people you are talking about. I have bent over backwards to help some people, and your right no thanks or appreciation for Best freakin’ husband ever sunset shirt. That I have done for them. I have fitted their kitchens, done attic conversions, and much more. Because they were friends. I never changed a single penny all I ever asked was. They kept me going I tea. But after all the work, I done for them was done no thanks, and your right I never herd from them again until they needed something else done. My family and other friends told me that they were just using me. But I couldn’t see it at first. But now I no what they are, it took me a long time to get it into my head.